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HATE CRIMES ON LINE
Usually when we speak of hate crimes, we refer to crimes or hate speech directed towards a particular group. Most of us are familiar with hate crimes and speech against those who are different from us in race, sexual preference, religion, or nationality. It is possible to commit a hate crime; however, against someone who is not a member of a minority group. It is even possible to commit a hate crime on line, as I discovered yesterday.
The world is full of people, and as writers we encounter them all. Many of us have opposing opinions and viewpoints, and never is this more evident than in the average day of a writer. While I tend to avoid conflict 99% of the time, occasionally an offensive comment is made to one of my writing posts. My first impulse is to strike back as I feel my blood pressure begin to rise, but I then must ask myself if I want to go on record with an angry comment, and the answer is always a resounding no. A few times I have reacted, only to return to the site shortly afterwards to remove my own comment, and sometimes the comment that provoked it as well. This usually resolves both the issue, and my state of anger. Sometimes; however, it is not that easy.
MY EXPERIENCE WITH AN ON LINE HATE CRIME
Yesterday I received a comment on my demand Studios hub. The initial comment not only disagreed with my views on demand Studios, but also insulted me personally, causing me to feel anger. I defended my stand on the site, and considered the issue a thing of the past; however, the offending hubber would not cease coming to my site, bashing it, and leaving highly offensive comments on it. I finally entered a comment defending my position as that of many, as evidenced by my other hub comments. My comment apparently offended the individual to a point at which he or she declared all out war on my demand Studios site, and me as a writer, intending to control the flow of my hub comments, and change them from positive to negative.
I began getting a series of hub comments disagreeing with my stand, but the obvious difference was in the number and type of comments I was receiving. While the demand Studios hub has been a very popular and highly rated hub, it generally receives from 8 to 15 reader hits a day, and 99% of its comments have been very positive. Suddenly it was receiving close to 300 readers in a single day, and all comments posted were negative, and many of an extremely insulting nature. While most readers were voting the hub up, and not leaving comments at all, I began to suspect something was going on out of the ordinary, as the hub is a full year old, and not generally subject to that much attention.
I suspected my hub was being linked to an unfriendly hub or posting where people who knew little or nothing about me were directed to visit my site with negative comments. Because this was not a natural flow of comments, but biased ones, I soon began denying all comments to the site unless they were from a confirmed fan or someone I knew, and deleted all comments made by the opposing party. When this did not stop the flow of angry writing, I posted a question to the hubpages community requesting information on how to report another hubber to the hubpages team for harassment. Almost immediately, I received two responses sending me links to the forum I suspected existed, and sure enough my hub link was included in the forum thread of a hate filled hubber whose main purpose appeared to be sending negative comments to my site. I actually avoid forums because I have found them to be argumentative and negative, and this one certainly fit the norm.
ALMOST LIKE A TRAUMATIC EVENT
The sudden surge of angry attacks was emotionally draining to say the least, and left me in a state similar to that of a traumatic event. Since the hub has existed without problems for a full year now, it is obvious the hub is not the problem, but the intent of this single particular hubber, obviously provoked by the first hubber who seemingly has some serious control issues. I spent most of yesterday denying hub comments inspired by this deranged individual rather than by my writing, as the hub has received mostly positive reviews and comments before. This situation also turned something I usually enjoy receiving, hub comments, into something I resented having to deal with at all.
THIS IS A HATE CRIME
While I am not naming anyone involved in this hub, I consider this behavior, and anyone who followed this negative link to my site guilty of a hate crime against me. I do not want your comments, neither am I interested in comments or opinions inspired by hate or control tactics. I know of one individual who has already been flagged by my on-line friends, but this was not even the user name of the initial hubber; therefore, I suspect more than one person may be targeting my hub for negative comments. I did visit the site of the person I was linked to on the forum, and noted that she recently began following the original hubber who left a rude and insulting comment on my site. I know neither of these people, and am amazed they find my freedom of speech as threatening as they appear to do. If writing makes me feel angry, I tend to leave the sight with no comment, and avoid the writer's hubs afterwards. Never do I harass and discuss that individual with others. Free speech is the right of every American, and should be the right of all people.
I HAVE NO INTENTION OF CHANGING MY HUB ABOUT DEMAND STUDIOS OR BACKING DOWN FROM MY INITIAL OPINION OF THEM
Haters and those who left negative comments on my hub inspired by the negative writer on the forum, you have attempted to intimidate the wrong person. I still stand behind every word I wrote in my original hub, and have no intentions of backing down to your threats or attempts to wear me down. At least one of you has been flagged, and I'm about to ask people to flag anyone else they discover who is using a link to try to control the flow of comments to my hub about demand Studios. In the meantime, absolutely no negative comments will be accepted to the site, as I believe them to be biased and mean spirited. I have a right to freedom of speech, and the constitution of the United States grants me the right to write about anything I please. I do not have to ask your permission to do so, nor do I have to accept your comments. I now approve all comments to that site before they appear, so you will get no attention at all from your harassment, and no one will see your comment. I also will not even bother reading it before it is deleted. This is how I deal with attempts to control my behavior or writing. I reject them.
FANS AND FRIENDLY HUBBERS, PLEASE READ THIS REQUEST
If you see any hubber who is linking my demand Studios site to his or hers, or to a forum with negative intent to do damage to my image or the image of my hub, please flag it immediately. I do not want hate groups controlling the direction of my hub traffic, nor the comments I receive. In fact, I'd rather these people not visit my sites at all. I sincerely thank anyone who has already flagged such sites, as these types of people are not only destructive to me, but are the types who will also target other writers.
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Hi, valerie, I hope it gets sorted out now, I have no idea why people do this, but hopefully things will get better for you now, just keep writing, and hopefully they will get fud up of it and go away.
Hi, good luck for tomorrow, I think it is that when you get stressed you just make the bad guys feel better, they must have with me last night! I was fuming so much it was a suprise that I didn't set fire to the computer! take care nell
So sorry to hear what you have been dealing with as it has NO PLACE in our community of writers. We are all here to be open-minded to fellow writers. I am glad to hear you have figured out a way to get this toxicity out of your writing life here. Please know I will be here to support you in our community and I am sad to hear you had to deal with STUPIDITY and DISCRIMINATION. Blessings Valerie.
I will be on the look out for this kind of nonsense. Great topic Valerie.
Valerie, ugh! What a nightmare, and on such a topic??? What the??? As you know, I admire your writing and I love all of your hubs, especially your hubs about discrimination against the poor.
I am very into politics and social injustice, and I love to write about it and am published in my local newspaper often. Here at hubpages, unlike you, I can't bring myself to write about it, yet. I see too many disgruntled readers, and I am afraid of being rated down.
As an example, I wrote a hub on the whooping cough epidemic in California and gave info on reduced-cost vaccines for children--I noticed it had been rated down to a 45. Well, I had posted it among anti-vaccine hubbers and removed it to a different category. Though I can't, of course, be sure it was a result of being in that category, the score did rise fairly quickly after reassigning it. All I was trying to do was provide assistance for people who can't afford something...imagine what would happen if I wrote about the issues I care about passionately: social injustice; homelessness; corporate greed; abuse of power; etc.
Though, by following you and reading your hubs, you keep nudging me, a little bit at a time, to write about things I care about. Do as I say and not as I do--keep writing the way you write--your passion is evident. And I'm quite angry that people are harrassing my favorite writer...
Great job Valerie. Sounds like more bullies with nothing to do. I wish you the best!
That's incredible. I don't know what else to say. I wonder if you could sort of "daisy chain" the link and re route it back to them?
jim
I really feel for you--I know what it is like to be the focus of someone's cyber-rage and it really is a form of abuse. It is no less abuse than if someone started calling your home with bitter, angry tirades. I know of another Hubber, who has dealt with threats directed at her personally from her Hubs. It's also ridiculous that someone would focus their own issues on some innocent writer this way. It would make me nervous, too, to get negative emails all the time. I had a buyer practically drive me off my rocker on Ebay once, with this kind of behavior. Hang in there and keep your chin up, as they say. Hopefully this too will pass.
This is bizarre, I hope it never happens to me. Well stated position. Good luck.
Wow, this sounds terrible & I hope it will quit.
I have only received one negative comment in the 9 months I've been here, but it's a bit upsetting. We were discussing whether or not my product research was valid. I offered references from nhi.gov and various other lab tests, but this other hubber was just out of control.
After addressing a couple of his comments & allowing them to be added, I finally quit. His responses were getting personal & off subject. I would not approve his comments & he gave it up. I'm glad it didn't escalate to this!
This hubber who is tormenting you is insane! Can Hubpages help you? Can you just remove the comment section from that hub? But, I guess the hubber could just get another hub to comment on so that wouldn't work. I hope this gets resolved & the hubber moves on!
valerie, Your a treasure and I hope you feel better having let it out, venting your feelings as this would PO any of us. We love and adore you and my most positive thoughts are with you. I'd def like to know who this is that did this so I can avoid them. Peace be with you dear friend. Peace indeed!
Sorry to hear you were targeted this way again. Sounds awful. I've been busy with work lately, but haven't seen the daily hubs from you when I checked-wondered what was up. Thought maybe you got a job? Hope you did/do get a job, but would miss your hubs. I've got to check out your demand Studios site to see what the contraversy was all about! Anyway, way to stand strong!
Cant believe that happend to you what a waste of time on peoples part and to have that much hate directed at you is in no way positive, but it sounds like you did the right thing and got it taken care of. good to know.
I'm sorry you have had this experience, and hope it is now resolved. I often attack people in comments, but its the idea, not the person, that is my object. Surely all this - comments, questions and answers are about provoking comment and counter comment, eventually giving rise to hubs! This does not justify abuse of course.
Why did you write your hub in bold? Did you want to have a good shout?
All the best to you. Interesting hub!
I know I left you a comment and came back to check it but it was gone and I also emailed you but I hear your super busy. Well what I said was, oh well you must have read it and deleted it so whats the point of repeating it... You know we all think this is a terrible thing to happen to such a kind person or anyone for that matter. Peace :) Good luck with your repairs and company
It's a sorry old world sometimes. I noticed that you had not been around much but as you state above...that is not the reason. Glad to hear that and glad to hear that you did not let them influence your decisions about the hub. WB
Hi, Valerie...I experienced what happened to you...one of my hubs were bombarded of negative comments (personal ones) not related to my article. I explained as calmly as I can that I detached my personal opinion regarding the issue...more and more disgusting comments were sent by intranet users...I cannot even go to their site because they are offline readers on HubPages.
Good way to look at it. I write many controversial hubs and get my share of "hate" comments. We, as hubbers, need to treat them as water rolling off our backs.
When I get comments such as those, usually from anonymous people, I just picture some fat, lazy slob sitting in their underwear doing nothing with their lives.
Keep hubbing and let the haters keep hating :))))






















LaMamaLoli 21 months ago
I feel for you! I hope you work it all out.