HUBBERS I LOVE; HUBBERS I LEAVE

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By valeriebelew

HUBBER'S DREAM COMPUTER

Sometimes having to go to the bathroom in the midst of writing a powerful hub, creates a serious crisis, thus I introduce, the perfect hub computer system.  Look closely.  LOL.
Sometimes having to go to the bathroom in the midst of writing a powerful hub, creates a serious crisis, thus I introduce, the perfect hub computer system. Look closely. LOL.

LOVE EM AND LEAVE EM

Yes, love em and leave em, but not necessarily the same ones. I realize my preferences don't automatically apply to everyone; however, for me, its all about good common sense, and social grace. If you would not say something at a social get-to-gather, you probably shouldn't write it in a hub comment either.

HUBBERS I LOVE

LOYAL FRIENDS AND FANS

I have a number of loyal fans (friends) from all over the world, who read my hubs as they are able. They do not always offer long comments, but generally write something in the comment section implying my hub was read and enjoyed. I may not hear from them for several days, but when they do comment, their comments are positive, encouraging, and stimulate more comments by others. Some comments they make are very short, but positive, implying their support of my work. If they witness an attack by another hubber, they defend me, or write that they were able to understand the point I was making, not understood by the other writer, or well taken.

FRIENDS WHO CORRECT MY ERRORS

Some fans have emailed me privately, with good suggestions, or additional information I found helpful. Some even let me know either in comments or by direct email about typographical errors in my writing, or words or letters I left out. While I do edit and proofread my work, I am not mistake proof. Those corrections are greatly appreciated by this humble novice. All I can say to you, is keep those letters and card coming in!

FREINDS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD

In graduate school, some of my favorite people were the International students, who offered me the opportunity to learn about other cultures without the need of having enough money to travel to other countries. I am finding the same wonderful opportunity here, through my many International hubpages friends. Communicating with people from other cultures is an education in itself, and greatly reduces the sadness I feel over losing my business and higher standard of living. It is amazing how much I learn from those of you who share cultures from distant lands. Thank you so much! Many here in the good ole USA would agree that different cultures exist within our own country, so I also enjoy my friends and fans in Western, Northern, and Midwest states. Those of you who are fellow southerners have much to offer as well.

GOOD WRITERS

Some of you are just plain good writers, and I am amazed at the quality of your work. In such cases, I join fan clubs, and don't much care if you join my own, though that is always an added bonus. I love good writing, and enjoy the company of good writers. I also tend to do better in larger International groups than I was able to do in the little town in which I presently reside. About an hour south of Atlanta, it is a very conservative, small town, and I am not a very conservative person, or writer, on many fronts. My writing was often so offensive to these small town writing groups, I had to cease attending them. Amazingly, some of you have found me first, additionally surprising, and added yourself to my fan club. In such cases, I was very honored to find that your writing far surpassed my own. Thank you immensely for joining my fan club.

HUBBERS I LEAVE

HUBBERS WHO FAKE IT

Any hubber who never makes a comment suggesting he or she might actually have really read your writing, is a leaver. Yes, I will thank such hubbers for their comments, but never will I follow such a person. Making a comment such as "Great Hub," isn't telling me anything, except that you are hoping to be followed, but aren't particularly interested in reading my writing. Most writers aren't stupid, so I assume many of you can also see through these types of comments. If you are going to make a comment on another writer's hub, give an opinion, or tell him or her something you like about the hub, something you agree with, or something with which you do not agree. Be nice, but be honest, that is, as honest as you can be without being rude. If the hub makes you feel too angry, it is best not to make a comment at all, nor follow the hubber either. If you find the writing to be very poor, why comment at all? Just stop reading, and don't follow, or comment.

HUBBERS WHO PROVIDE "WELL MEANING" ADVICE, WITHOUT KNOWING THE FACTS

I could publish a book on these; however, I will only mention a few. As a supervisor in my former life, I knew the best criticism usually began with a question for clarification. Before I can criticize your work, I need to be sure I understand what you are trying to say. It may be that your writing is not clear enough, or it may be that I have my own personal shortsightedness, and react to some issue of my own. Your writing may not even be implying what I am feeling emotionally. Some writers use irony, or satire in their writing, and mean for you to read between the lines; this is especially common in poetry, or song lyrics. Satire may say openly, exactly the opposite of the message it wants to impact. Don't jump on the simple meaning, without taking the time to look deeper. Who remembers Joan Baez's lyric "With God on our Side?" The lyric was not implying that God was really on our side. Please, read between the lines.

Also, don't email me directly with unsolicited ways I could earn more money. There are plenty of hubs out there about increasing one's earning potential, and I can select from them if I am interested in reading such a hub. It may be I'm earning more money than you are, and while you may be scoring 100 on that particular day, don't let it go to your head. I've scored 100 a number of times, then sunk to 95, then rose to 100 again, only to sink again.

It is wonderful to score 100 for a day or so, but it doesn't make me any authority. If I were that successful, I wouldn't have time to write as much as I do for hubpages. Suggestions like including large numbers of lyrics on a single hub, imply that earning pennies through googlesense is more important than having my lyrics read, since no one is going to read through twenty song lyrics at once. Your goal may be to earn the small amount hubpages pays; mine is to eventually be a well known writer, whose lyrics are heard on the radio or MTV.

Don't give advice about something you know nothing about. You may believe only long hubs bring in money, and that may be true of many hubs; however, my best money makers are very short pet breed profiles. People outside of hubpages find them through the title name of the animal involved. To argue with me on line, telling me I must only want to attract other hubbers, is insulting, since I think I have enough sense to know which hubs pull in money, and which ones don't. My short breed hubs attract more outside readers than do my longer hubs. Case closed. My main goal is to be read, not to make pennies from add clicks. While making money here is great, I'm not going to write long dull, "put people to sleep" hubs in order to earn a minimal amount of money. My dreams are much larger than that.

CORRECTIONS

I've received two corrective responses to my breed profiles. One was very polite, and called into question one of the pictures in my breed profile. I decided the hubber was correct, and eliminated the picture that looked more like an American Pit Bull than an American Bulldog, even though it had been labeled as one. Such corrections are appreciated. The other was rude, questioning why I wrote about things about which I knew nothing. While I did do some further investigating on the breed, and added some other sites featuring the dog, I did not approve the rude comment, nor answer the rude email I received for two or three days. As writers, we do research and write about things we do not do on a daily basis. I am open to changing hubs, but not to insult. Since I do have the option of not approving comments, extremely hurtful ones will be rejected.

HUBBERS WHO ONLY JOIN FAN CLUBS TO OBTAIN NEW FANS FOR THEMSELVES

In a sense, we are all opportunist; however, joining my fan club, or anyone's fan club, and making a comment that only demonstrates you have not actually read the material, is disappointing. Most of us write in order to be read, and we want people to really read and appreciate our work. If you are only joining fan clubs trying to collect notches on your own belt, please pass mine up. I prefer friends and fans who particularly like my writing style. Such people are revealed by how often they return to my site. You aren't expected to like or enjoy all of my writing equally; however, don't join my fan club if you don't particularly like any of it.

Comments

Mentalist acer profile image

Mentalist acer Level 6 Commenter 2 years ago

I find your Hubs both profesionaly done and highly informative. I write simply for the lovely feedback I get from you and everyone else. I also have no filter on the type of hub I find meaningful or helpful which I have to admit if someone follows me my genorous tolerance leads me to follow some Hubbers that give me, to put it lightly, give me insight into a wide range of not so hidden agendas. In short I think I am the moderate of all moderates,but most of all I am genuine and find that obvious of yourself...

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valeriebelew Hub Author 2 years ago

Mentalist, you are one of the hubbers I love. I suspect those I left will never read this hub, which is fine with me. As a Writer, I tend to write about just about everything that comes to mind, and my guess is that I'm not the only hubber who has experienced some of these things. While I don't stop following someone I've joined, some people don't get read, even though they have my notch on their belt. LOL. Like you, I am basically mild mannered. (: v

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George J Hardy 2 years ago

Love the excellent advice and clarification that many seem to have missed in publishing their own material. You`ve said what had to be said. Thanks

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valeriebelew Hub Author 2 years ago

Thanks George. I am going to check out your hubs, and highly suspect you will soon become one of the hubbers I love. Thanks for responding to my site. (: v

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fastfreta Level 5 Commenter 2 years ago

First Valerie I love the perfect computer, (the Photo)Ha, ha, LOL. I suspect if it was invented we'd all buy it. Oh my goodness you've said what a lot of us feel and maybe afraid to say. You know I can always tell when a person reads my hubs by what they say in the comment. I often leave some little tidbit that if read it will bring about a comment pertaining to it. I try not to leave a comment if I haven't read the hub. I love to read so I spend so much time reading hubs that I can't write as I would like. You know I love to read your hubs. This is a hub after my own heart. Thanks for saying things that I wish I had the courage to say. All I can say now is very good!

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valeriebelew Hub Author 2 years ago

This was a scary hub to write, but thus far the response has been very positive. When I get hate mail, it is always about some hub I had no idea would offend anyone, like maybe a dog breed profile. LOL. I guess hate monglers don't get very far through my hubs and just ditch em and go elsewhere. Since I hate "hate mail" that is fine with me, but whenever I write something that is extremely bold or controversial, I do get a little nervous when I start getting comments. Thanks for your support. You have always definitely been a hubber I love, and remain so. (: v

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samboiam 2 years ago

Valerie, I really like the new hub computer system. It would make it easier to dispose of some of my writings.

This is an excellent hub. I must confess, when I first joined Hubpages I was one who would follow someone in hopes they would reciprocate.

After a while I saw that was not fair to me nor to my fellow hubbers.

If I am contemplating following someone, I ask myself these three questions:

1) Will they help me become a better person?

2) Will they help me become a better writer?

3) Will they make Hubpages a more enjoyable experience?

If I answer yes to any of these questions, I will follow them.

If I answer all three questions as no. Then I may comment on a hub here or there but I will not become a fan.

Just thought I would add my two cents.

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valeriebelew Hub Author 2 years ago

Thanks Sam. You were one of the hubbers I initially chose simply due to your writing ability, but I'm learning that I also like you as a person. Thanks for responding to my site. (: v

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dohn121 Level 3 Commenter 2 years ago

I really do believe that you mentioned some of the unspoken rules on HubPages. I certainly can empathize with you and imagine that others can as well. You really nailed this one as far is moderating comments, fan clubs, and making money on HubPages. All of us do want to make money, so those that do make money here are really the only hubbers worth listening to! I really envy your success here in such a short time and the knowledge you've shared here is exemplary of such. Great hub ;)

Dohn

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valeriebelew Hub Author 2 years ago

Thanks Dohn, as you know I am reading your novel, revenge, and you are one of the hubbers whose fan club I joined strictly due to my interest in your work. I have come to like you, based on that, and the occasional comments you make on my hubs. Thanks for dropping in. (: v

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hair2nv 2 years ago

You go girl, I too think that your hubs are informative and a joy to read it is a important to learn something new everyday and you make that possible for all hubbers and I say THUMBS UP to you. keep on keeping on!!!!!

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valeriebelew Hub Author 2 years ago

Yeah, I think I'm on the warpath today. I'd better get back to doing dogs, cats, and flowers, before I get myself into trouble. LOL.

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hair2nv 2 years ago

Keep it up maybe you'll put a spark in my ass!!!!!!

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valeriebelew Hub Author 2 years ago

Well, I can't help but notice that it is all the best writers who are commenting on this site, and there are a few others who are probably busy over the weekend, but will probably be on here in a day or so. The guys respond to this one; but they won't get on the one about men; guess those sexy guy pictures embarrass them. They are on this site, though, and many of my favorite writers are responding to it. Thanks for coming back. (: v

rana2010 2 years ago

http://hubpages.com/hub/25-top-games

hello plz promote this link n help the orphan children for their education

i want to spent money generated through this hub for their education

plz do the favour

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vivekananda Level 1 Commenter 2 years ago

Interesting topic. I suggest every hubber to read this hub once.

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net_crazy 2 years ago

This hub was all good. But one thing was really special, the perfect hub computer :)

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

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satomko Level 1 Commenter 2 years ago

You present several good guidelines, and I agree that new hubbers (and maybe those that have been around a while too) should read this hub to get a grasp of the kind of community hubpages is trying to achieve.

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valeriebelew Hub Author 2 years ago

Thanks you guys. vivekanda, if they all read this, my traffic would definitely increase; however, I'm not going to hold my breath. net_crazy, I liked the toilet too. LOL. Samtomko, thanks for your comments. Its amazing how many hubbers agree with me on this one. You know its really just common curtesy, like the old golden rule thing. I appreciate all of you commenting on my sites. (: v

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valeriebelew Hub Author 2 years ago

vivekananda, I also meant to include that although you are a new fan club add for me, you are definitely one of the writers I love the most. Your writings about different cultural religions a long way from America, are like taking a course in world geopraphy and diversity. I learn a great deal everytime I read your hubs, and your comments are usually better than I deserve. Satomko, your book reviews are awesome, and your writing is so perfect it puts my clumsy attempts to shame. Guess that is what I can expect from a litterary teacher. LOL. I really do appreciate you guys so much. and net-crazy, with a screen name like that, I would expect you to love the computer toilet solution. (: v

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i scribble Level 2 Commenter 2 years ago

I agree with your hubbing etiquette suggestions. It's the political hubs that tend to make me hot under the collar (when I disagree), but so far I've managed to take the high road and just respond with facts, not emotion. I guess people's online social skills generally reflect their real life social skills. I don't make a habit of correcting other people's spelling and grammar, but since you said you appreciate it, you spelled Joan Baez wrong. LOL I promise I read every word of this hub, & I'm willing to take a pop quiz to prove it!

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valeriebelew Hub Author 2 years ago

Thanks for the comment, scribble, and the correction. I worried about the spelling of that name, and should have checked it, but figured with the message of this hub, somebody would correct any mishaps, and I was correct. I'll admit that sometimes I need a personal secretary, and am too into what I am writing to edit properly. I enjoy both your hubs and your comments. Thanks for both. Ps. I made the change. Keep hubbing and correcting; I'd have to pay for this anywhere else. (: v

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Lady Guinevere Level 6 Commenter 2 years ago

I wtie all kinds of hubs on all kinds of topics and 90% of them I do lots of research on while I am making it up. I try not to spread misinformation.

I love your cats hubs! I have the normal variety of outdoor strays and indoor cats, whom all have picked me, but I like the variety they you have brought to attention. I just wish that they had more Cat shows on then just all those Dog shows. Don't get me wrong I love dogs too, it't just that you hear more about them then you do cats now.

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valeriebelew Hub Author 2 years ago

Thanks Lady, I think that is because dogs are better at obedience competition, and other training events. Cats are just as smart, and they know full well what you are trying to get them to do, they just don't wanta do it. My cats communicate real well with me, when its something they are interested in doing, but they could care less about sitting, heeling, or jumping through a hoop. They aren't going to do much other than be very vocal about wanting their needs met, and I guess that doesn't make good show material. Most cat shows judge on looks and personality, and come to think of it, that is how people judge each other too, so why aren't there more cat shows? I guess they are too much like us, into themselves. LOL. thanks for commenting on my site. (: v

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Lady Guinevere Level 6 Commenter 2 years ago

LOL, yes cats are big on personality. There was one guy that trained dogs that we went to a few years back and he had his cat trained to do what he wanted it to do and when he wanted it to do. It was neat to see that. Cats are foodies, in that they will do almost anything if there is food offered for it in return.

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valeriebelew Hub Author 2 years ago

That is true, but I don't really want any of my animals to be robuts. I like for them to be a little bit resistent and defiant. Dogs that are too obedient are dull, and I don't want my cats to be that way either. Ha, I like em to think for themselves, at least a little. (: v

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Dobson Level 1 Commenter 2 years ago

This is the second hub I have read today talking about the qualities of good and bad hubbers. I sense the feeling of ones who just poke around to get followers. I intend to build some relationships here with people who think deeper than just a one article level. I will be reading more of your work becasue you seem to be about more than a quick following.

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valeriebelew Hub Author 2 years ago

Thanks Dobson, I actually didn't even try to get any followers; they just gradually happened, and then I started getting into building relationships here. That is one reason why I have so few followers as compared to the number of hubs I've written. You see people with no more hubs than I have and over a thousand followers, but the problem is that if the people follow you for any reason other than the fact that they like your work, they will not actually read your work. I want my writing read; I'm not collecting notches on my belt. I'm not competing with anybody for fans, but I'd like some quality fans (friends) who are really wanting to read what I write. You can only read so much, ya know. Thanks for commenting on my site.

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tonymac04 2 years ago

I found this Hub very useful indeed. Some of the points you raise have bothered me also. I will no longer follow people who have only a Hub or two full of photos. I am looking for writing here and though I love photos there has to be more to a Hub than that. That's why I follow you!

Love and peace

Tony

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valeriebelew Hub Author 2 years ago

Occasionally only photos with captions are appropriate, but if that is all the person has ever done, that is no writer. I think hubpages draws some people initially, who are looking to make a quick buck. Such people don't stick around long, because there are much easier and faster ways to make money. This site is a way to market one's writiing ability, as well as form friendships all over the world. it is a wonderful experience, but you are not going to make a lot of money with little effort, or at all in most cases. Most of these people come and go quickly, adding three times as many followers as they do hubs. Those with the highest scores aren't necessarilly the best writers either, as many just do what they have to do to make googlesense work to their advantage. The pennies I make here are okay, but my goals for my writing far surpass anything google adsense can do for me. I am more concerned with quality of writing, and true fans, not people collecting notches. Of many so called fans, very few continue to read one's work and comment on it. Those are your true fans (friends), and the ones who make this site worth the time. Thanks for commenting on my site. (: v

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Jen's Solitude Level 2 Commenter 2 years ago

Well I only stumbled across this article because I was combing through the best of list here at HP. I am glad I did because this is so well-written and to the point without being overly preachy or critical. The only downside is now I have to stop browsing in order to check out your profile page. I think it will be worth it, though, so don't really mind. :-)

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valeriebelew Hub Author 2 years ago

Thanks Jen. I've done that before, myself; however, lately I keep running into interesting hubbers on my own sites, and even those who blast me for my political views end up being interesting. Other writers are half the fun of this site, as well as being read by new people. I'll have to check out your site, too. think I've seen you on some other people's sites. (: v

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Hi-Jinks 2 years ago

An interesting list. You have written what many had thought. I use political views to fodder my writing in fiction...great material.

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valeriebelew Hub Author 2 years ago

Political views are safer in fiction. I don't enjoy writing about political issues, because I guess the intense emotion people feel about religion and politics makes me uncomfortable. Thanks for commenting on my site, Hi-Jinks. I'll check out your hubs. (: v

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ericsomething Level 1 Commenter 23 months ago

Valerie, I'm still trying to get a handle on this new model of social-media-driven, you-follow-me-and-I-follow-you on the Internet. When I had my Facebook account I kept asking myself, who are these random people and why are they trying to 'friend' me? Some of it actually sounds a little creepy.

I'm picky about who I follow, and who I 'friend.' Actually, my standards are pretty close to yours there ... does this person write stuff that I want to read? Is this person's work a positive or a negative in my life? Is the person a good writer? Where he's from, what his politics are or who his daddy is, well, that isn't nearly as important.

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valeriebelew Hub Author 23 months ago

Thanks ericsomething. I'm with you on this one. One of my more conservative hubpages friends, American Romance, wrote a hub recently on fake followers, and I had to agree with him on that one. Some people are spending more time adding follower notches to their belts than they are writiing hubs. I have over 200 followers now, but had none for about the first four months I wrote on here. In fact, at first I mainly wrote to vent, and didn't expect my writing to be read. It probably wasn't read, but at the time I was newly unemployed, and needed to vent my frustration. The hub I mentioned in my politcal debate hub was one of those, venting feelings I seldom experience now. They weren't something I was willing to argue about; they were my feelings, not subject to debate. When I write a political hub, I expect debate, so I seldom write them. LOL. My motive now is communication, and the promotion of my creative writing. I enjoy my friend fans very much now, and they are often my reasons for writing. Thanks for responding to my site. Also, I went back to your site, and remembered you are from Charleston. I have a sister living there. (: v

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